discussion on love...
... is turning out to be a debate!
no... not really a debate... 'tis just something we had some heated arguments on a few minutes, hours, moments ago. 'twas interesting, though...
it's our group's third change of topic... our topic now is something like love in the modern sense, or love then and now... 'tis so just to have an argument, something we could reall talk about, something "intellectually stimulating." we came to these points that would serve as the outline, the supporting ones that makes up the main topic: courtship, technology, conservatism, respect, same sex relationships, context, limits, commitment, and sex. let me remind myself what we should be dealing with given these subs... courtship. courtship then was way harder than courtship now. courtship now is much simpler than that of the past. technology. it is one thing that affects the changes in our views on courtship and the like. conservatism. some people are still conservative; some are now much more liberal... (changes in time bring about these differences in views & opinions.) because of conservatism, some still think sacred of traditions. because of liberalism, i'm most likely to repel traditions, traditionalism. respect and values. values yesterday differ from those of today. self-respect implies to others that the self (or he) should be respected by them... respect begets respect > respect them and they'll respect you... show them that you respect yourself then they'll respect you too... the discussion goes on like that... same sex relationships. i'm against that, for God made woman for man and man for woman... i can tolerate them as long as they're not taken seriously, like that's a matter of life and death. i'm not against homosexuals, bisexuals, and the like, though. context. context of love back then and how it differs now... all i can say is that...love does not change as time goes by. it's the people that change, the culture, the technology, the ways of expressing love!... that should go to the conclusion though... it's not something that should be revealed early in the discussion... it's actually the conclusion! Ü limits. it's said that love conquers all. (yuck! corny!) but in spite of my belief in that, too, i certainly think there are limits to it, especially if it's love by man, then it couldn't possibly be agape or unconditional as God's love. a man can kill but he shouldn't name love as the reason for committing murder. commitment. views on commitment, especially life-long commitments, had changed... life-long commitments are no longer just togetherness... people think harder now before moving to such level, a higher level of intimacy... most no longer think of marriage as something that could be equated with dowry... sex. i still think it's sacred, and that it's still important for a couple to be both virgins as they face each other in the altar. otherwise, well, that's ok, but it's not the best marriage for me... i don't know really... am i in the right position to speak?!?
now that i've laid out some of my views, i gotta clarify that the reader should consider the culture in the country i live in. i'm from the Philippines. i'm a Filipina. (but not the typical Internet Filipina! you people with dirty minds!! how judgmental of you!!!) i'm proud to be one & i'm proud to tell you that i'm not a traditionalist & i'm liberal to some extent. if you study or live in the Philippines or immerse in Filipino communities, you would much better understand how and why i've gained or made these thoughts of mine.
it's your time to shine. XP XD
(btw, i like you, doitz!!! doitz, be mine!!! rather... be a good friend of mine. Ü)
no... not really a debate... 'tis just something we had some heated arguments on a few minutes, hours, moments ago. 'twas interesting, though...
it's our group's third change of topic... our topic now is something like love in the modern sense, or love then and now... 'tis so just to have an argument, something we could reall talk about, something "intellectually stimulating." we came to these points that would serve as the outline, the supporting ones that makes up the main topic: courtship, technology, conservatism, respect, same sex relationships, context, limits, commitment, and sex. let me remind myself what we should be dealing with given these subs... courtship. courtship then was way harder than courtship now. courtship now is much simpler than that of the past. technology. it is one thing that affects the changes in our views on courtship and the like. conservatism. some people are still conservative; some are now much more liberal... (changes in time bring about these differences in views & opinions.) because of conservatism, some still think sacred of traditions. because of liberalism, i'm most likely to repel traditions, traditionalism. respect and values. values yesterday differ from those of today. self-respect implies to others that the self (or he) should be respected by them... respect begets respect > respect them and they'll respect you... show them that you respect yourself then they'll respect you too... the discussion goes on like that... same sex relationships. i'm against that, for God made woman for man and man for woman... i can tolerate them as long as they're not taken seriously, like that's a matter of life and death. i'm not against homosexuals, bisexuals, and the like, though. context. context of love back then and how it differs now... all i can say is that...love does not change as time goes by. it's the people that change, the culture, the technology, the ways of expressing love!... that should go to the conclusion though... it's not something that should be revealed early in the discussion... it's actually the conclusion! Ü limits. it's said that love conquers all. (yuck! corny!) but in spite of my belief in that, too, i certainly think there are limits to it, especially if it's love by man, then it couldn't possibly be agape or unconditional as God's love. a man can kill but he shouldn't name love as the reason for committing murder. commitment. views on commitment, especially life-long commitments, had changed... life-long commitments are no longer just togetherness... people think harder now before moving to such level, a higher level of intimacy... most no longer think of marriage as something that could be equated with dowry... sex. i still think it's sacred, and that it's still important for a couple to be both virgins as they face each other in the altar. otherwise, well, that's ok, but it's not the best marriage for me... i don't know really... am i in the right position to speak?!?
now that i've laid out some of my views, i gotta clarify that the reader should consider the culture in the country i live in. i'm from the Philippines. i'm a Filipina. (but not the typical Internet Filipina! you people with dirty minds!! how judgmental of you!!!) i'm proud to be one & i'm proud to tell you that i'm not a traditionalist & i'm liberal to some extent. if you study or live in the Philippines or immerse in Filipino communities, you would much better understand how and why i've gained or made these thoughts of mine.
it's your time to shine. XP XD
(btw, i like you, doitz!!! doitz, be mine!!! rather... be a good friend of mine. Ü)
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